tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post7731600641489907982..comments2024-03-15T09:20:18.844+00:00Comments on TV Licensing: No TV Licence RequiredUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger101125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-86776561546743893132020-06-10T14:55:55.751+01:002020-06-10T14:55:55.751+01:00In the 60's I worked for the GPO. A job that ...In the 60's I worked for the GPO. A job that one guy did was to go out with an engineer in the detector van. He had file of who had licenses.<br /><br />One day they found an address that had no license but someone was receiving a broadcast. The guy knocked at the door and a woman answered the door in a dressing gown and then opened her gown to show her naked body. The guy asked to move to another position and many others asked for his role.<br /><br />I have ended up here do to me being hassled. I have spent several years letting them know I don't have a TV and don't watch anything on a computer or similar. I object to them telling me they will still come and check on me, insinuating I am a liar, so this year I didn't answer the letter. I now have a rather threatening letter arrived.<br /><br />PS Too old and not brave enough to strip off at the door if an enforcement Officer comes round!!.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-71616691427917087292020-04-17T17:00:55.081+01:002020-04-17T17:00:55.081+01:00A computer is only classed as a TV receiver within...A computer is only classed as a TV receiver within the meaning of the legislation if it is used to watch live TV or BBC iPlayer.<br />Therefore, you only need a TV licence to access the live broadcasts on All4 and YouTube. You don't need a licence if you only use these services for on-demand content. Since Netflix has no live broadcasts of any kind there are no circumstances under which you will need a TV licence to watch it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-56058999395351864322019-12-06T16:53:56.753+00:002019-12-06T16:53:56.753+00:00I got rid of my TV recently because I was so bored...I got rid of my TV recently because I was so bored of what was available: programmes I didn't want to see: daytime TV, cooking shows (I like cooking but damn there's too many of them), chat shows, soaps, endless repeats, old films I've seen before, endless ads (on the commercial channels) and I've noticed clumsy, heavy-handed PC/SJW lecturing creeping into the BBC (Doctor Who has to be one of the worst offenders in this respect). Netflix is guilty of this at times too, but at least I have the choice to watch or cancel. <br /><br />There's the odd programme I like on broadcast TV, but for 150 odd quid a year I certainly wasn't getting my money's worth. It's also high time that the BBC adopted a subscription model, then people could opt out of watching BBC programmes, the BBC can learn to stand on its own two feet like a grown-up and TV Licensing and Capita can die the deaths they so richly deserve. In fact in the past 6 months the only TV I remember watching is a couple of England games (on ITV), Dave Gorman's Modern Life is Goodish (on Dave), Gogglebox (on Channel 4) and Would I Lie To You (on Dave, although originally made for the BBC). Dave has way too many ads btw. The rest of the time I was watching Netflix on my laptop.<br /><br />And as for BBC iPlayer, it really pisses me off that it only shows programmes for a set period of time and certain series of certain programmes aren't available. I saw one programme listed where series 3-5 were available, but 1 and 2 weren't (I forget the name of the programme). Well if that isn't the most retarded thing ever. These are programmes that TV licence payers paid for, yet the BBC in its infinite arrogance decides how long series can be watched for. And then to add insult to injury, BBC Worldwide sells series to foreign networks. Well surely licence fee payers should be getting a cut of those sales since they funded those programmes? <br /><br />Anyway there's a lot of garbage on iPlayer, just as there is on the BBC TV channels. I deleted my iPlayer account because I wasn't interested in watching drivel on iPlayer any more.<br /><br />So I called TV Licensing to cancel my licence and told them I no longer had a TV. I was asked if I watched TV on any other devices and I said "Just Netflix, but I don't need a licence for that, do I?" and I could distinctly hear the disappointment in the woman's voice when she said "No, no you don't". She then said she'd cancelled my licence and would be sending me out a refund form, but insultingly said that if I was "caught" watching live TV I could face a fine of up to £1,000. Stupid cow. She was effectively calling me a liar.<br /><br />But I'm really not sure about the whole Netflix thing at all. At https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ104 it says you don't need a TV Licence if you only watch Netflix and not the BBC iPlayer, but since any computer can easily access iPlayer (whether you watch it or not) is that really correct? Why does Netflix get treated differently to all the other online on-demand services? I don't see a difference. If All4 requires a TV licence, why doesn't Netflix? (And why All4 requires a licence when it's got nothing to do with the BBC is also retarded).<br /><br />And why does it say at https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/Live-TV-and-how-you-watch-it that you need a licence if you want YouTube? YouTube isn't even a TV channel? That makes absolutely no sense. Does TV Licensing give each YouTuber a cut of the TV licence? I highly doubt it.<br /><br />TV Licensing makes absolutely no sense any more. It might have in the 1950s, but it needs to end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-21735917642965230452018-10-01T23:30:34.328+01:002018-10-01T23:30:34.328+01:00ofcom does not have nuisance letters complaints a...ofcom does not have nuisance letters complaints available ! just calls and sms....... so i have to complain about ofcom. now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-46531772810660455562018-10-01T23:21:14.501+01:002018-10-01T23:21:14.501+01:00petition with complaints to police about police wo...petition with complaints to police about police would also be useful....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-4967041752690561722018-10-01T22:21:29.079+01:002018-10-01T22:21:29.079+01:00where is a petition to the bbc to charge the viewe...where is a petition to the bbc to charge the viewers before they start viwewing !!!!!!???????<br /><br />i will sign that petition each time i get an unsolicited letter!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-13172132939864843052018-10-01T22:15:13.915+01:002018-10-01T22:15:13.915+01:00Is there an add for an interested solicitor to tak...Is there an add for an interested solicitor to take up the case?<br /><br />is there a place where i can send evidence of their letters so that the evidence is gathering somehwere. where?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-35351069256264750152018-10-01T22:13:40.083+01:002018-10-01T22:13:40.083+01:00
is there a petition for everyone to sign at the ...<br /><br />is there a petition for everyone to sign at the authority dealing with unsolicited mail?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-33197255154890651192018-10-01T22:11:48.610+01:002018-10-01T22:11:48.610+01:00Why do they broadcast without first charging the p...Why do they broadcast without first charging the person with its debit card the moment they start broadcasting to that person who is watching?????? charge before broadcaaasting !!!!!! Or don't broadcast<br /><br /><br /> why do they allow that acces of broadcast without charging?<br /><br /><br />they can easily charge when you want to watch, but they fail to do so.... that would be easier.<br /><br /><br />xxxxxxxxx<br /><br />is there a petition to complain to the relevant authority about unsolicited mail? i need to complain at the same time with others !<br /><br />Fine if its a civil case ! see you in court. But there is no civil case.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />any solicitors interested in taking over a class action case to ask for compensations for the "harassment"/ "stress"? I have all these letters.....as proof. thanks.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-8950258126636819052018-07-03T19:40:53.504+01:002018-07-03T19:40:53.504+01:00If you're only watching on-demand programmes v...If you're only watching on-demand programmes via Netflix, which is probably the case, then you do not need a TV licence.<br />Remember that a TV licence is only needed if you watch TV programmes at the time they are broadcast on any channel OR on-demand programmes via the BBC iPlayer.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12702203117069680585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-7594660645048362992018-07-02T19:44:04.535+01:002018-07-02T19:44:04.535+01:00I moved to UK and lived in a flat for 1 year and p...I moved to UK and lived in a flat for 1 year and paid the TVL. I moved out to another flat but my antenna connector on my tv is broken. I don't watch BBC live through my laptop. My tv is just used to play with my PS4 and watch netflix via Amazon fire stick. So I decided to not pay TVL because I never/can't watch BBC on it and don't want to.<br />I kept receiving these letters, which I avoided to answer. They tried to call me twice, didn't pick up.<br />I receive now a letter saying that an officer will come in few days to inspect my premises...<br />Do I need a licence?<br />I won't let in this guy anyway because I will probably be at work when they come.<br />I find just awful to be able as a government connected company to harass people as scammers would do...<br />Thanks a lot for your website.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-84348297907462699982018-06-29T20:20:23.405+01:002018-06-29T20:20:23.405+01:00What do we suggest you do: Nothing. What's don...What do we suggest you do: Nothing. What's done is done and TV Licensing will not know about it unless you contact them and admit to it. Don't do that!<br />Can you get a discounted licence for being a student: No.<br />Can you get a short-term licence: No. What you can do - not that we'd recommend it - is buy a full 12 month licence and then cancel it later on. You will be able to claim a refund of every unused calendar quarter, but it might be difficult trying to convince TV licence that you do not need a TV licence. They don't believe a word anyone says.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12702203117069680585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-58303119228577919992018-06-28T16:35:08.576+01:002018-06-28T16:35:08.576+01:00Hi
I think someone in my house has streamed a few ...Hi<br />I think someone in my house has streamed a few games of the World Cup and I just received a letter.<br />What would you suggest I do? And is there a way to pay for the license only for a short time period and do they have student rates?<br />Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-42758116895336672822017-12-29T17:52:31.798+00:002017-12-29T17:52:31.798+00:00My house is currently a building site and has been...My house is currently a building site and has been for a couple of years now. The TV licencing people simply cannot accept that I do not need a TV licence and I appear to be unable to prevent them from repeatedly sending offensive threatening letters every few months. <br /><br />They tell me that they will not contact me for another six months, but this is the maximum time they will leave me alone... before again accusing me of a criminal offence. Despite telling me this last time, they sent another threatening letter after a couple of months!<br /><br />I cannot think of any other situation, where I would be expected to put up with being bombarded by threats and be required to repeatedly confirm my innocence of a crime.<br /><br />I have told them "I do not need a TV licence; nobody there is watching TV. If and when this changes, I will purchase a licence...!" I have also complained that the letters are offensive in their nature, but clearly this is utterly irrelevant to them.<br /><br />I suppose that if the letter "asked" me to confirm that a TV licence was still not required, then I would not be so offended. But the attitude and offensive, threatening nature of their letters is unacceptable.<br /><br />Is there any way to stop them from harassing me, seemingly at will?Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-64528363322163540062017-11-09T16:29:03.562+00:002017-11-09T16:29:03.562+00:00I too am fed up of this harassment from them. I ha...I too am fed up of this harassment from them. I have buckled and called them and given them my name! Wish i had read this before i had done so. I wouldnt have given it to them.<br /><br />As i dont watch tv i could hear when an enforcement officer walked up to my flat, they didnt knock, just stuck a letter through the door. I got a date for the next enforcement officer. I was in all day, and nothing. It is like psychological warfare.<br /><br />I have now lost my temper with some woman on the phone after yet another threatening letter, which is not like me, but theyre sending me crazy.<br /><br />If anyone does actually ever turn up now i will use the advice on this site. I had already planned to film them as i dont trust them. I will also call the police if they do try to force their way in.<br /><br />Thanks for your advice. I wish id read it before i lost my temper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-14538234306757530212017-07-21T21:02:18.353+01:002017-07-21T21:02:18.353+01:00Thank you for your kind words Anon.
Glad to have b...Thank you for your kind words Anon.<br />Glad to have been of some assistance.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07732399111583086465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-203679761745695532017-07-21T15:17:09.085+01:002017-07-21T15:17:09.085+01:00Hi,
Not sure if this posting will work.
If it d...Hi, <br /><br />Not sure if this posting will work. <br />If it does great - if not no one will ever know. <br /><br />I don't have anything new to bring to the table. I'd just like to say how I great I think it is that someone has taken the time to set this site up. <br /><br />for my two pennorth I find it intriguing that the TVL is not for the BBC yet the BBC put this website up http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/ss/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheadername1=content-type&blobheadervalue1=application%2Fpdf&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1370006350329&ssbinary=true which quite clearly states the BBC require XYZ. <br /><br />I'd also add to the growing voices that I am one of lifes bullied but this site has given me the courage to defy the goliath. I also got fed up with television programs, so I decided I'd only watch stuff I got on tape or DVD. And that is all I've watch for years now. (still not a lot as I only get a bout an hour and half possible viewing time each day. work and visiting don't leave much time or energy for much else. Anyhow I told them ages ago I DONT NEED A LICENCE now they've started up again and I'm tired (even more tire than usual) of it. So this site has given me the gumption to just ignore them. <br /><br />I suppose, I worry about things and imagine a scenario where they come round when I'm not in and it all escalates to policemen coming to where I work and carting me off. Obviously I can't believe that their case would stand a chance so would they go that far? and if they did and they lost would I have to pay costs? that's the bit that really gets to me. <br />It's people like me they frighten with their terroristic (is that a word) letters, but I'm determined to just ignore them. <br /><br />Thanks again for a great site. <br /><br />anonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-32090481932985150062017-02-22T14:55:40.676+00:002017-02-22T14:55:40.676+00:00Thank you very much, I send them the online form s...Thank you very much, I send them the online form saying that I don't need one, and that automatic bot replied on my email that I need to wait for letter from them or email in the next ten days, so hopefully they won't come and if they come to our doorbell downstairs is broken and we won't be able to hear anyways.<br />Thanks again!Lerpz_Victimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03702982218735862482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-12347803559602261362017-02-22T08:52:52.341+00:002017-02-22T08:52:52.341+00:00Hello EPIC4 LIFE - no, that's not how it is.
S...Hello EPIC4 LIFE - no, that's not how it is.<br />Suppose they were to visit and suppose you were to show them your TV sets and explain they are used for YouTube only (having taken the precaution to disconnect the aerial lead), then that should be enough to satisfy them that no TV licence is needed.<br />My advice, however, would be to never allow them access to your property. TV Licensing has stitched up innocent people in the past and we're sure they still try to on a daily basis.<br />Thankfully word is getting out - TV Licensing is lying, dishonest scum.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07732399111583086465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-10387362552932971952017-02-21T10:51:34.553+00:002017-02-21T10:51:34.553+00:00So, I have a question, we have a 2 TV's at hom...So, I have a question, we have a 2 TV's at home but they both is used to watch only YT, and we practically don't watch TV, our family doesn't have time for that. I yesterday completed the form on their page saying that I don't we don't need one. But my friend said is better to call, cuz if they visit us and find any TV equipment that's enough for them to make us pay a fee for not having a TV license. Is that really how it is?Lerpz_Victimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03702982218735862482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-16413015786981220482017-02-10T20:17:35.801+00:002017-02-10T20:17:35.801+00:00If you're permanently cruising on a narrow boa...If you're permanently cruising on a narrow boat then you'll hardly need to worry about it.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07732399111583086465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-81941038264834825932017-02-08T01:06:12.021+00:002017-02-08T01:06:12.021+00:00what happens if you havn't got an address to r...what happens if you havn't got an address to register your licence ?.. as it's the address not the person that gets licenced ?.. for eg. someone fulltiming / continuously cruising on a narrow boat ?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-17433223621490039812016-12-19T00:44:56.213+00:002016-12-19T00:44:56.213+00:00A mobile phone cannot be used as a "TV Receiv...A mobile phone <i>cannot</i> be used as a "TV Receiver", since it's unable to receive broadcast signals "at the time that they are transmitted to the general public" - the encoding and decoding times take care of that - there's no way that a stream to a mobile phone (or computer) could ever be considered a "Live" broadcast!<br /><br />The first goon that turned up to my house couldn't understand that concept and also made the mistake of claiming "statutory right of access". A swift call to the local Police by my wife while he stood blustering on the doorstep, got him arrested for trespass and threatening behaviour. <br /><br />The next one that turned up - just two weeks later - tried to barge through the partially opened door and received a broken nose for his trouble, since I firmly closed the door on him. The watching Policeman - that he'd brought with him - thought that it was funny!<br /><br />The final visit was from a pair of them who really didn't like to be video recorded by several cameras with a couple of very large floodlights illuminating them for the passing public to enjoy! They drew quite a crowd. The bigger one was in <b>tears</b> when the local Bobbies removed him - firmly - from my front garden. Perhaps it was the bright lights, or perhaps it was the thought of the adverse publicity, the criminal record, and his failure to earn a penny of his paltry commission that afternoon that set him blubbing!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04967342323028892006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-42397292654312805782016-05-18T19:00:10.418+01:002016-05-18T19:00:10.418+01:00wow. the aggressive tone of the letters really tak...wow. the aggressive tone of the letters really takes some believing.<br /><br />the tone alone makes you not want a TV, BBC or a TV License.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4959111893158321335.post-53971051795935211662016-04-06T19:25:21.412+01:002016-04-06T19:25:21.412+01:00#1 of 2 Stories:
I lived in a shared house many, m...#1 of 2 Stories:<br />I lived in a shared house many, many years ago in the era of Cathode Ray Tubes. We were watching Eastenders & there was a knock at the door. A housemate gets up & answers the door... "Hello" said the man at the door, "I'm from TV Licensing..." The housmate replies "I don't live here!" & slams the door shut. Housemate re-enters living room & switches off the TV knocking a vase of flowers over in the process, water drenching the back of the set. This made the device reasonably unsafe to use judging to the sparks & smoking. A fitting end to a hideous beast, & from that day on we lived without TV most remarkably.<br />#2 0f 2 Stories:<br />In the same house a number of years later. I was half way up the stairs when another & most different housemate answered the door. "TV Licensing..." said the man, "Come in we don't have a TV!" I nearly fell down the stairs! I rushed upstairs to close my door, even though I didn't have a TV, I didn't want some pseudo-offical thinking he could just snoop anywhere he pleased just because my housemate was stupid enough to let him over the threshold. By the time I had made it down the two short flights of stairs he had covered the same distance up the stairs & had the foot in the door of a young woman holding a baby who had answered the knock on her room door, oblivious that it was the TV licensing "Official". As I got back down to the 1st floor I was aware of expletives not fit for children's ears & a TVLO beating a hasty retreat to the front door.<br />OK I lied!! This is a trilogy...<br />#3 of 2 - The recent years...<br />I moved to a flat a few years ago & they started sending me letters. You know the one I'm sure. So I gave a "no license needed" declaration. It was bliss they never mailed me & if they did come round I never heard them & even if I had of I wouldn't have answered the door as I NEVER answer the door to unexpected knocks. If I know you I'll know you're coming round. Anyway, I got an email in December 2015 saying I needed to re-confirm that I didn't watch the gogglebox, so I did, online as before. "That's them in an obscure corner of my mind for another couple of years" I thought. But the new year has brought an increasing number of "letters" until today, AGAIN, the "an officer will visit your property" letter. So once again I have made a declaration online & I'll see what level of correspondence I receive from them now....<br />FOOTNOTE : If one of the TVLO's comes to my door, it won't get answered. I don't want to be hounded & intimidated for not having my brain drained in front of the flashy-screen. I do sit in front of a flashy screen but that is to make art & extend my creativity & understanding further than watching 5 hours of soaps a night ever could.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com